jeevs:
institutionalized learning is Bad, stable albeit boring day jobs are sometimes just an extension of that.
olga:
well some people like salaried positions. it gives them stability.
jeevs:
stability is dangerous.
jeevs:
stabilty is like stagnation,
jeevs:
stagnation inhibits innovation;
jeevs:
innovation is what makes us great.
olga:
there is no room in this world for everyone to be innovative. for your innovative idea to come through, someone else generally helps along with the idea. Think of Brave New World. As sad as it is, that is the only way the society can function.
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jeevs:
to an extent, most people need some stability in order to not feel completely lost, but people thrive when they're lost. You learn more when you're lost or stranded or just doing it to survive than in any other context
jeevs:
because that is the instinctive context for learning
jeevs:
almost any other context is artificial, forced learning. the Bad kind of learning.
olga:
if you *only* do what interests you, you'd be a pretty limited individual.
jeevs:
are curiosity and interest inversely proportional ?
jeevs:
I think they go hand in hand. ...
olga:
school forces you to see other options even if it is done through force, it might open up your eyes, point in the right direction......
jeevs:
but what about curiosity ? school becomes less curiosity -- self-driven, motivated learning -- as you get further from kindergarten
jeevs:
institutionalised public schools work as a tool of The System, in order breed good citizens, not freethinking citizens or even innovative citizens.
jeevs:
innovation feeds success in a society, innovation is success.
olga:
well of course the society isn't going to breed entrepreneurs, because it would be chaos is everybody turned into entrepreneurs. the entrepreneurs will breed themselves, while everyone else can work for them. If nobody worked for anybody else things couldn't really work out could they?
jeevs:
lots of people live freelance or work as independent consultants. best of all is when like-minded individuals might come together in /small/ groups to create a stable environment for themselves but with the opportunity for innovation, something like 37signals or any of the hundreds of little designhouses that are becoming more and more prevalent today as the advantages to running your own gig become more obvious.
jeevs:
I suppose it's most noticeable amongst creatives these days -- designers, drawers, writers et cetera. but coders and economists have been doing it forever, working as consultants.
jeevs:
Google tries its hardest to simulate a university environment for its geniuses in order to incubate innovation.
